I may be a bit behind...
Sep. 19th, 2008 09:25 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ellefliesThis is not a reaction post to SPN 4x01. This is a reaction post to the end of last season.
The flist is already spazzing over 4x01. I am not surprised by that fact.![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
regala_electra informs me that I will be pleased. Yay!
But yes, SPN, that wonderful weird show. I am finally caught up (well I was up until last night). I put off watching the last 4 episodes till about a week ago. And then I watched them all in one go and managed to stay up till 3 in the morning doing it. I started intending to finish the last few after I got back from Amsterdam but my plans... didn't quite work that way.
I was spoiled enough to know that Sam does not save Dean and that hell is a place where you are strung up on meathooks. Personally I was hoping for a more Hieronymus Bosch version of hell but I do understand that shows like SPN have a budget and depicting Bosch's version of hell would have wildly blown it (although if they had I would have been the happiest person ever. Which would most likely defeat the purpose of depicting hell). Seriously though, forget the meathooks, they should have strung Dean up across a harp while a blue birdy guy ate up other doomed souls only to excrete them. Hell as a meathook spiderweb was only so-so.
I may have been spoiled to the point that the meathooks lost all their impact.
For those who haven't experienced the crack that is Hieronymus Bosch's The Garden of Earthly Delights do check it out, particularly the third panel where Bosch got in touch with his inner sadist. He was smoking the good crack. :)
I may have been through an Art Museum lately. My inner art snob seems to be showing.
I really should have watched this episode when it first aired. After a summer of hearing about meathooks I was just really ready to get on with it. I know that sounds horrible, especially since Dean is my favorite character on this show. But knowing how this season ends I was just ready to get to the hell part and get beyond this whole "deal with the devil" thing. SPN wore me down with the angst, mostly on Sam's part (he is an angsty mopey thing isn't he?), but towards the end there... well there were a few episodes where it felt like being hit in the head with a mallet that Dean is going to HELL and it is bad and even though he acts tough he is really not okay with this and can we just have a group hug and cry and get in touch with our emo lady boy sides?
I was not spoiled for the Lilith bits though. I had this hazy idea that there was a demon named Lilith and that she had something to do with Dean's contract. I was very pleased with how they played her. Honestly, the creepy child bits stand out more to me then anything else about that episode. This sweet innocent looking little girl possessed by evil incarnate with her family so terrified of her they'd rather she be killed then go on the way they were. I was VERY impressed with that. Switching out with Ruby was another bit I didn't see coming. Granted it was 3 in the morning so I wasn't exactly at my predicting best.
Out of the last few episodes I watched, I have to say I enjoyed Ghostfacers the most. Sam and Dean live in such a weird little world that it's nice to see that world from the perspective of normal people (or semi-normal as the case may be)
One of the wildly unpopular fandom opinions I hold is that I loathe and detest Sam Winchester. Because I love the people on my flist I try to keep the mocking and disgust under a friends cut to all of one person (who actually encourages me in my hate even though she likes Sam. I think she finds me amusing.) ANYHOW, I wanted to put that little disclaimer out there before I jumped into my thoughts on Time Is On Our Side.
Firstly, I found that episode to be ALL KINDS OF DISGUSTING. I used to not be squeamish. I'm not sure where my non-squeamishness went but it sure as hell abandoned me. I watched parts of that episode through my fingers!
But that's not the thing that hacked me off the most. I understand that Sam wants to save Dean. I get this and don't consider it a bad thing, but Sam's refusal to see that some things were worse then death and that some paths you just should not go down I found to be really irritating. How skewed is Sam that in his mind, it's okay to turn Dean into this zombie-like decaying creature who has to harvest organs from the living in order to survive. Does the fact that Dean is ALIVE make that okay? I will grant that Sam was not thinking straight and only had one goal - to keep Dean alive and was grasping at all and any possible straws. I just found it mind boggling that Sam could still want that for Dean even after he saw that that man had become in his quest for eternal life (and I do realize that I hardly ever grant Sam any slack. It seems to be my default position.)
I'm just happy that Dean was there to smack some sense into him and that Dean was the one determining his own fate. There's no sense to hanging onto life if that's the kind of life you're hanging onto.
Can I blame Sam's refusal to sometimes accept reality on the fact that Dean is an awesome older brother and I remain completely convinced that Dean sheltered Sam far more then he should have just so Sam wouldn't have to accept the reality of their lives?
It was an interesting, if gross episode, I'm just bummed that they killed off the guy who played Evan Lorne on Stargate Atlantis so fast (Vancouver Casting Pool: I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!)
I honestly regret not watching the SPN finale when it aired as much of it's impact was completely lost on me. Yes, I was a flailing mess when the hell hound attacked, but beyond that I was really just wanting to see this meathook scene that had sent the fandom into conniptions. It was a decent season, the episodes I enjoyed the most though, were the ones that had some humor to them (The Trickster episode had me in raptures for example). The deal... that got old for me after awhile.
I remain completely unspoiled for Season 4. I don't know how Dean is coming back, I don't know what Sam is doing. I haven't a clue.
Hopefully I'll be able to watch 4x01 sometime tonight or tomorrow but as I'm going to Wicked tonight (YAY WICKED *FLAILS*) I don't know.
The flist is already spazzing over 4x01. I am not surprised by that fact.
regala_electra informs me that I will be pleased. Yay!But yes, SPN, that wonderful weird show. I am finally caught up (well I was up until last night). I put off watching the last 4 episodes till about a week ago. And then I watched them all in one go and managed to stay up till 3 in the morning doing it. I started intending to finish the last few after I got back from Amsterdam but my plans... didn't quite work that way.
I was spoiled enough to know that Sam does not save Dean and that hell is a place where you are strung up on meathooks. Personally I was hoping for a more Hieronymus Bosch version of hell but I do understand that shows like SPN have a budget and depicting Bosch's version of hell would have wildly blown it (although if they had I would have been the happiest person ever. Which would most likely defeat the purpose of depicting hell). Seriously though, forget the meathooks, they should have strung Dean up across a harp while a blue birdy guy ate up other doomed souls only to excrete them. Hell as a meathook spiderweb was only so-so.
I may have been spoiled to the point that the meathooks lost all their impact.
For those who haven't experienced the crack that is Hieronymus Bosch's The Garden of Earthly Delights do check it out, particularly the third panel where Bosch got in touch with his inner sadist. He was smoking the good crack. :)
I may have been through an Art Museum lately. My inner art snob seems to be showing.
I really should have watched this episode when it first aired. After a summer of hearing about meathooks I was just really ready to get on with it. I know that sounds horrible, especially since Dean is my favorite character on this show. But knowing how this season ends I was just ready to get to the hell part and get beyond this whole "deal with the devil" thing. SPN wore me down with the angst, mostly on Sam's part (he is an angsty mopey thing isn't he?), but towards the end there... well there were a few episodes where it felt like being hit in the head with a mallet that Dean is going to HELL and it is bad and even though he acts tough he is really not okay with this and can we just have a group hug and cry and get in touch with our emo lady boy sides?
I was not spoiled for the Lilith bits though. I had this hazy idea that there was a demon named Lilith and that she had something to do with Dean's contract. I was very pleased with how they played her. Honestly, the creepy child bits stand out more to me then anything else about that episode. This sweet innocent looking little girl possessed by evil incarnate with her family so terrified of her they'd rather she be killed then go on the way they were. I was VERY impressed with that. Switching out with Ruby was another bit I didn't see coming. Granted it was 3 in the morning so I wasn't exactly at my predicting best.
Out of the last few episodes I watched, I have to say I enjoyed Ghostfacers the most. Sam and Dean live in such a weird little world that it's nice to see that world from the perspective of normal people (or semi-normal as the case may be)
One of the wildly unpopular fandom opinions I hold is that I loathe and detest Sam Winchester. Because I love the people on my flist I try to keep the mocking and disgust under a friends cut to all of one person (who actually encourages me in my hate even though she likes Sam. I think she finds me amusing.) ANYHOW, I wanted to put that little disclaimer out there before I jumped into my thoughts on Time Is On Our Side.
Firstly, I found that episode to be ALL KINDS OF DISGUSTING. I used to not be squeamish. I'm not sure where my non-squeamishness went but it sure as hell abandoned me. I watched parts of that episode through my fingers!
But that's not the thing that hacked me off the most. I understand that Sam wants to save Dean. I get this and don't consider it a bad thing, but Sam's refusal to see that some things were worse then death and that some paths you just should not go down I found to be really irritating. How skewed is Sam that in his mind, it's okay to turn Dean into this zombie-like decaying creature who has to harvest organs from the living in order to survive. Does the fact that Dean is ALIVE make that okay? I will grant that Sam was not thinking straight and only had one goal - to keep Dean alive and was grasping at all and any possible straws. I just found it mind boggling that Sam could still want that for Dean even after he saw that that man had become in his quest for eternal life (and I do realize that I hardly ever grant Sam any slack. It seems to be my default position.)
I'm just happy that Dean was there to smack some sense into him and that Dean was the one determining his own fate. There's no sense to hanging onto life if that's the kind of life you're hanging onto.
Can I blame Sam's refusal to sometimes accept reality on the fact that Dean is an awesome older brother and I remain completely convinced that Dean sheltered Sam far more then he should have just so Sam wouldn't have to accept the reality of their lives?
It was an interesting, if gross episode, I'm just bummed that they killed off the guy who played Evan Lorne on Stargate Atlantis so fast (Vancouver Casting Pool: I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!)
I honestly regret not watching the SPN finale when it aired as much of it's impact was completely lost on me. Yes, I was a flailing mess when the hell hound attacked, but beyond that I was really just wanting to see this meathook scene that had sent the fandom into conniptions. It was a decent season, the episodes I enjoyed the most though, were the ones that had some humor to them (The Trickster episode had me in raptures for example). The deal... that got old for me after awhile.
I remain completely unspoiled for Season 4. I don't know how Dean is coming back, I don't know what Sam is doing. I haven't a clue.
Hopefully I'll be able to watch 4x01 sometime tonight or tomorrow but as I'm going to Wicked tonight (YAY WICKED *FLAILS*) I don't know.
